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114 Hot Shot

Re: 114 Hot Shot

TylerB24 said:
I know the 114B (IO-540-T4B5) is not covered by the 114 hotshot (yet), but when it is, will it cover the 114/114As that have the IO-540-T4B5 via Aerodyme's Slick STC?
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It should cover these because the STC is broken down into two parts; One that covers the engine the other that covers the airframe. Your airframe is already covered, so once the engine is covered it shouldn't make any difference whether it is installed in a 114, 114A, or 114B.
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

carllee said:
Camarillo didn't stop just because of the exhaust system. They had other reasons that were not related to any problems with the system. They had solutions to the exhaust system on the table, but weren't pursuing them because they had decided not to continue with the program.
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I just wanted to continue on this subject a little further. The exhaust is probably the best part of this system now. It's almost worth buying the system just to get the exhaust!

I'm going to be offering an upgrade kit for those that are flying with the old Camarillo system, so anyone experiencing problems can replace what they have with something much better.
 
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When Carl converted my 114A to a "Hotshot" we had the opportunity to fly it with just the new exhaust minus the turbo boost. The performance enhancement with just the new exhaust system was very noticeable from a power standpoint as well as improved and more uniform CHT's and EGT's.

My CHT's are now within 10-15 degrees of each other and I am running stock injectors!
 
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So what makes the exhaust better? Can you explain?
 
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Alex said:
So what makes the exhaust better? Can you explain?
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As far as the original is concerned, it was designed in 2012 instead of 1972:-) As far as the Camarillo system is concerned, well everything:-)

I had help from a Hot Rodder/Gear Head/former World Champion boat racer. The new system flows perfectly, with all of the cylinders exactly balanced. Anyone that works on performance engines knows how important an exhaust system is, and how much improvement can be made by doing it right. Your engine will run better, run longer, and produce more power if you "get it right". We didn't design the system just to correct problems. We wanted to make it the best that it could be. And it is.
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

Hi Carl; what does the new 114 system do on useful loads? RCM for the 112 is approx. 40 lbs., right? how much wt. for the 114?

Judi
 
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Hi Carl

just to be sure. I am having diner with an owner of a 93 114b. What is the price for the upgrade to hotshot?

How much work is involved?

grtz

Willem
 
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Carl, asked the question in another section - any plans for a Hot Shot for the 390? I realize small numbers at this stage, but down the track, who knows.
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

janderson said:
Hi Carl; what does the new 114 system do on useful loads? RCM for the 112 is approx. 40 lbs., right? how much wt. for the 114?

Judi
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Hi Judi,

The 114 Hot Shot is 40lbs - roughly 7 gallons of fuel. Depending on the length of flight and cruise altitude the increase in fuel efficiency should compensate for this.

The 112 Hot Shot is 26lbs - less than 5 gallons of fuel. This is easily compensated for by fuel efficiency. With the 112 Hot Shot you can offload 20 Gallons of fuel (120lbs) and still fly nearly as far as a 114 with full fuel.
 
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benelong said:
Carl, asked the question in another section - any plans for a Hot Shot for the 390? I realize small numbers at this stage, but down the track, who knows.
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Hi Rob,

There wouldn't be much return for the amount of $ it would cost.
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

carllee said:
Hi Judi,


The 112 Hot Shot is 26lbs - less than 5 gallons of fuel. This is easily compensated for by fuel efficiency. With the 112 Hot Shot you can offload 20 Gallons of fuel (120lbs) and still fly nearly as far as a 114 with full fuel.
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This is why the 112 Hot Shot system is an investment not an expense. The Hot Shot burns over 1 gallon/mile less fuel, so over the lifetime of the engine you would save in fuel what the system costs.

Like buying a more fuel efficient car. It might cost more upfront but saves over time.
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

Carl,
I am relatively new to the COG and am enjoying my 114. Your news about an STC for a 114 Hot Shot is very exciting. I fly in the higher western USA and have been lamenting the lack of altitude capability.
My N1920J is one of the older 114's and is in line for an engine overhaul. The addition of your turbo normalizing would seem a perfect fit at overhaul time.
Are you seeing an early spring or summer availability for upgrades?

Craig Skembo
N1920J
 
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Just curious and lazy . .
:confused::o
What is the cost comparison between a 114 Hot Shot upgrade and going with a Super Commander 580 exchange?

Anyone worked the math???
 
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That's an interesting question. A 580 conversion would always have a new engine installed, so just buying the Hot Shot is not really a fair comparison. Even an overhaul at the time of HS install is still not really apples-apples.

Jamesdub said:
Just curious and lazy . .
:confused::o
What is the cost comparison between a 114 Hot Shot upgrade and going with a Super Commander 580 exchange?

Anyone worked the math???
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Re: 114 Hot Shot

bradmc said:
That's an interesting question. A 580 conversion would always have a new engine installed, so just buying the Hot Shot is not really a fair comparison. Even an overhaul at the time of HS install is still not really apples-apples.
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Your right Brad,

and I'm very content with my 78 114.

Guess a better way to look at it / compare would be a performance comparison.

But the wife unit will not care that one can go faster / higher than the other.
She's going to ask, "how much?" . . .

114 Hot Shot mod = $??
Super Conv =$??
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

Hi Carl.

I was reading through this old thread tonight and the following post (shown below) caught my attention. Do you sell this exhaust for the 114 on its own without the turbo?

When Carl converted my 114A to a "Hotshot" we had the opportunity to fly it with just the new exhaust minus the turbo boost. The performance enhancement with just the new exhaust system was very noticeable from a power standpoint as well as improved and more uniform CHT's and EGT's.

My CHT's are now within 10-15 degrees of each other and I am running stock injectors!
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

Keep in mind that the turbo is plumbed into the exhaust so the exhaust would not be applicable to a non turbo airplane.
 
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Roger... good point ;)
 
Re: 114 Hot Shot

tgertzen said:
Hi Carl.

I was reading through this old thread tonight and the following post (shown below) caught my attention. Do you sell this exhaust for the 114 on its own without the turbo?

When Carl converted my 114A to a "Hotshot" we had the opportunity to fly it with just the new exhaust minus the turbo boost. The performance enhancement with just the new exhaust system was very noticeable from a power standpoint as well as improved and more uniform CHT's and EGT's.

My CHT's are now within 10-15 degrees of each other and I am running stock injectors!
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I think that might have been my post. Joel is correct because the whole system is plumbed together. Carl and I were able to gauge the performance of the exhaust because the turbo on our first flight was not boosting.
 
Carl; so am I correct in that you aren't doing HS conversions for the IO540s?

Judi
 
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