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MT Propeller

I'm amazed you were told that a prop with a huge crack in it was not urgent. Was it still within the "1 year or 1,000 hours" warranty period when you discovered the crack back in August?

The prop has around 150 hours on it right now.
 
There is a crack on a second blade - nowhere near as serious but in the identical location, which indicates to me that it is a spontaneous issue. I cannot say with 100% certainty that there was no impact, but I don't think there was, at least not from me. I found this about a month after I bought the plane and I can only remember having the cowling off once or twice to fix the broken mixture cable. I cannot remember anything bumping into the blade.

One thought. I spent some time at a prop shop in Hayward last year when I was having a couple of Skyhawk props overhauled. Sullivan Prop is an MT repair shop, and as I was waiting for my MT I talked to them about composite issues. They mentioned one of the damage modes they had seen was when folks who are unfamiliar with composite props are installing or removing props they will sit the prop on a bucket with the rear of the blades resting on the edge to drain the oil. This is normal for metal props but a really bad idea with MT props and can cause damage to the delicate trailing edge. Given you have the same issue on two blades I wonder if it was installation related.

Regards,
Ken
 
Given you have the same issue on two blades I wonder if it was installation related.

It's certainly possible... I think at this point I will never know. I'm just stuck doing the repair. The crack on the other blade appears to have been previously epoxied by persons unknown and should be OK.
 
Interesting comments and views on the experience level and best practices of the shop.
 
Sensenich is now telling me that the prop needs a complete overhaul. There's a ding on the leading edge of one blade (could have been caused by me, I live at a grass strip) and some scoring inside the hub. All this on a prop with less than two hundred hours. I can't express how disgusted I am with this whole thing.
 
Sensenich is now telling me that the prop needs a complete overhaul. There's a ding on the leading edge of one blade (could have been caused by me, I live at a grass strip) and some scoring inside the hub. All this on a prop with less than two hundred hours. I can't express how disgusted I am with this whole thing.

Ouch! Sorry to hear of your problems with the prop. I really do not want to rub salt into the wound, but I've had no troubles with my MT - now at 145 hours, aside from a self-induced nick in the leading edge sheath. Working with MT (sent them lots of pics) I learned it was field repairable. I find the prop to be superb. Have you considered sending it to MT in Florida (or another MT authorized service center) instead of working with Sensenich?
 
Hey Charlie, I have the 2 blade original Hartzell and am contemplating in the distant future changing this prop as i still have the 100 hour AD. The MT3 blade is so far my first choice as it is lighter. I was at the Danielsville airport fly-in and listened to Carl's talk and visit to Germany where they were made. What differences did you notice on your 112 from the original prop and this MT?
 
To each his own, but I still say the MT is the best choice for our aircraft, especially the 112. More modern design, and much easier on the weight and balance. I've heard horror stories about all 3 manufacturers, Hartzell, McCauley, and MT. McCauley is the worst - when they're dead, they're dead!

My guess is that Kevin's problem had a root cause, other than normal wear and tear. The good news is that when he gets is back it will be just like new. With a metal prop they get smaller and are shaped differently every time they're overhauled.

Metal resonates sound, Composite absorbs sound - nice quiet, smooth ride:-)
 
I would still like to try the MT. If indeed it is smoother, quieter and faster to spoil up along with the gain in airspeed, then it is an improvement worth trying.
 
Hey Charlie, I have the 2 blade original Hartzell and am contemplating in the distant future changing this prop as i still have the 100 hour AD. The MT3 blade is so far my first choice as it is lighter. I was at the Danielsville airport fly-in and listened to Carl's talk and visit to Germany where they were made. What differences did you notice on your 112 from the original prop and this MT?

Jay, I can't comment on any comparison because the MT was on 94J when I purchased. I have noticed - and my A&P/flying buddy has commented many times about - how quickly the engine spins and fires up, the lighter prop seems to make a big difference. While no prop is silent, it is noticeably quieter than other props I've flown behind (in my Cessna & Piper experience). I've always been impressed with the performance I get in 94J - but there are other factors than the prop. As the first post in this thread indicates, 94J was the plane used for getting the STC & Carl flew it both before and as part of that process. I've had a few conversations with Carl & can say I agree 100% with his comments. When my IA looked at the nick in the leading edge sheath his opinion was the prop had to come off & be sent in for factory repair. I found MT to be superb in their customer service in working with them through calls & e-mails with pics - the nick was field repairable. All in all, I'd call my self a "satisfied customer" of MT.
 
Have you considered sending it to MT in Florida (or another MT authorized service center) instead of working with Sensenich?

It sounded like lead time and price were going to be approximately the same between the two. Sensenich has a pickup truck, and my mechanic works with them frequently, so that's what swung me in that direction.
 
Click image for video. Another good reason for a 3 blader. Sounds sweet!


 
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I have an extra, brand new, MT propeller coming in a couple weeks, if anyone is interested. It normally takes from 12 to 16 weeks to get one.

it's black with white tips.
 
Carl, you didn’t mention if it is for a 112 or a 114? They are different aren’t they?
 
Oh, sorry. It's for a 112. Yes, they're different.
 
I would definitely go with the MT as they have no life limitation and are repairable in case of an FOD. They also provide best vibration damping characteristics for almost vibration.
 
Sorry, the extra is sold, but can custom order if anyone wants one.
 
I have a beautiful, brand new, 3 blade MT Scimitar propeller available for a 112,112A, or 112HS. No wait time! Can ship immediately.
 
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Hi Carl,

Did you ever get the MT prop certified for the 114B?
 
Hi Phil,

Yep, cerified for all models! The propeller I have in stock is only for a 112 though. The 112 and 114 use a different prop, and the 114 and 114B use different hubs.
 
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