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The FAA released the following statement around 1:20 p.m. regarding the crash:

This is a preliminary information about a general aviation accident at Lee Gilmer Airport in Gainesville, GA at about 11:30 am today. The aircraft was returning to the airport shortly after departure when it hit power lines and went down about 100 years from the end of the runway. We do not know the aircraft type yet because it was destroyed by fire. Two persons were on board. Local authorities will release their names and conditions. The FAA and NTSB are investigating. The NTSB will determine probable cause. We will update this statement when new information is available.

CBS46 Meteorologist Jim Loznicka said the sky was overcast and wind was occasionally gusty to 20 mph or more at the time of the incident. It is unclear if weather played a role.
 
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In ny case it's bad news.
 
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Bad news when they catch on fire. Maybe the survivor will shed some light on why.
Hoping for a speedy recovery.
 
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So it was N1148J, a Commander 112, according to the FAA, and the surviving passenger was a CFI?
 
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oh sad indeed, Todd. Lawrence Youhanaian since 2003. don't know him/ don't think he is/was a COG member..?..

Judi
 
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Hmm , CFI . I often spend a night at the Airport Hilton in New Orleans connecting the next morning with Southern Airways or Trans Texas Airlines to Baton Rouge . One evening I decided to spend a night in the French Quarter . Missed my flight to Baton Rouge in the AM because of traffic . Busy hands of an FAA Check Pilot pulled both engines on the same wing on a Delta DC-8 , burned the Hilton down .

Juergen Koehn
N5893N , 114A/GT
 
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Sadly Larry was a member - joined in April but never posted so we don't know much about the plane or anything that might have been going on maintenance-wise.
 
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Very sad news. Prayers to the family and survivor. Outcome/cause news will help...........
 
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Tragic indeed.Not what we like to hear -ever. OUR PRAYERS!
GOT TO say:wonder what 'The instructor ' will have to share.
 
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If it was indeed a 112, I can say I would not be surprised if wind and weight were to play a factor. My wife and I took off from FFZ a month ago, fully loaded with fuel and 70 lbs bags, about 100 degrees. We took off from the short runway, should've increased airspeed some before rotating...CharLee (509CA) flew but took longer to climb than anticipated....she is a turbo as well, though I didn't have it open all the way, only half. I have taken off in my 112A without the turbo and it is weak, to say the least. I'm ordering the vortex generators soon. The turbo gives her the power but the wings don't want to fly with a heavier load. We were about 100 lbs shy of gross weight, and it was hot, two hundred feet AGL at end of runway...kinda an eye opener for sure at what full fuel and near gross weight means in a 112.
God's Peace to those affected by this accident. Terrible.
 
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Something everyone could learn from an accident like this is whats the magic number for your plane altitude to make it safely the turn back to the airport and land at gross, mid weight, and light and your best glide speeds for the different weights?

Tough decision to turn back to the ap in an emergency with an engine problem like this accident or try and land in front of you on something that isn't an airport with an engine out, and should be based on your altitude if you have and engine problem taking off.

Wondwering if anyone else has tested there Commander at a safe altitude with a simulated engine failure on takeoff to see what it can do, and what the minimum altitude you have to have to make it back safely as I did in my 114?

I would be intersted in other Commanders owners results and will post mine, for which what the the FAA calls the impossible turn, and sound like this accident was.
 
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If you look at an aerial photo of this airport, not a lot of options to 'land straight ahead'.
 
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If you look at an aerial photo of this airport, not a lot of options to 'land straight ahead'.
Yep that is for sure !
 
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Something everyone could learn from an accident like this is whats the magic number for your plane altitude to make it safely the turn back to the airport and land at gross, mid weight, and light and your best glide speeds for the different weights?

Tough decision to turn back to the ap in an emergency with an engine problem like this accident or try and land in front of you on something that isn't an airport with an engine out, and should be based on your altitude if you have and engine problem taking off.

Wondwering if anyone else has tested there Commander at a safe altitude with a simulated engine failure on takeoff to see what it can do, and what the minimum altitude you have to have to make it back safely as I did in my 114?

I would be intersted in other Commanders owners results and will post mine, for which what the the FAA calls the impossible turn, and sound like this accident was.

Tried this with my 112. Did a simulated engine out with a 180 turn at 85kts to try to return to a simulated runway. I lost nearly 2000ft just trying to line back up with the road that was being used as a runway centerline. Needless to say if I was already at 2000ft AGL I'd be too far away from the runway to land on it.
 
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If you look at an aerial photo of this airport, not a lot of options to 'land straight ahead'.

No question a lot of airports don't have many options in some directions, but not knowing the departure runway must have been 29, as the other runways North, South and to the East all looked better and hope I have to never make a decision like this.
 
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God Speed...
 
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