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Mr Bailey Comes to DC

JBunn

JBunn

New member
Hidden Lake, New Port Richey, FL
Aircraft Year
1973
Aircraft Type
112 Hot Shot
Reg Number
N112DG
Serial Number
105
Hey Bill,
I saw you on flightaware today. Must be visiting your daughter in DC. Saw you coming out of GAI level at 8K and 96Kts. Heckofa head wind! I saw 165 kts+. yesterday when I took 89J to Islip for annual yesterday. It made for a nice trip. Even better... had lunch with Sven, Brian Frank and Glenn. Hope you had a good visit.
 
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Great visit. One of Blair's concert performances. Back in a couple of weeks for the Kennedy Center. ...ooh, la, la.

Today was first preheat of the season. Boo. 96kts must have been coming down through one of the mountain waves. Saw plenty of upper 60's and mid 70's. !!! Lower had less wind and more ice. No good choices. In level flight 40kts right on the nose. Ugh. Sad part was only 8 kts tailwind on Friday. Never fails... ;-)

I need to see which of our bretheren is based @ GAI. (114 type) Poor soul... watched him make three approaches while Barbara and I were patio dining on Friday afternoon. Bozos on the ground kept blocking him from landing. (of course he was trying to land against traffic on the first try... ;-)
 
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Bill

What does it take to get vetted into College Park

It would be easier than Manasas for me

Rick
 
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I went into W00 which is close to College Park with no restrictions other than IFR flight plan. You can cancel to land but must keep your assigned squawk. Prior to take off you have to call to get a unique squawk have it on prior to take off and pick up your clearance airborne.

It is a challenging airport with a 2400' runway and obstacles on both ends. Study it before you go in and plan your takeoff and landing at a light weight. There is fuel and tie downs available.
 
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Rick,

It is a circle jerk. I picked up my TSA personal decoder ring password a couple of years back and haven't used it since. (A story to tell over a beer sometime... could be made into a Will Farrell movie) Although there is a metro station across the street from CGS, the runway is short if you are leaving on a hot day at max gross and the approach into CGS has 700' mins. Would be OK in a pinch but GAI is just much more convenient.

GAI is a decent length strip w/ an LPV approach (270' mins) and close access to the DC metro and highway system. By car, we are downtown DC w/in 20 min (not rush hour of course) Shady Grove Metro station is less than 5 - 10 min from airport. Enterprise will leave and pick up cars at the airport w/o "convenience charges". (good deals on the weekends) So you have no waiting for a pick up or drop off. Decent restaurant @ airport. You don't need the TSA vetting but are subject to the ADIZ squawk procedures. The local FBO is a relative zero but I've never paid a ramp fee to park and the fuel isn't absurdly priced.

Now if a child is attending U of MD (College Park), then sacrifices are appropriate. Let's talk before you enter the vetting maze.
 
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Rick,
If you are thinking of going into college park you may as well just come into my airport at Fort Meade.(FME) only 9 miles away. GAI or Leesburg may actually work better for you.
 
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...and FME offers the fine Bunn hospitality. Who could want for more? :-)

One more item on GAI... if you elect to use it, plan to file in and out via EMI (Westminster VOR) Route in or out will be ... "V44 MRB V166 EMI direct". You won't actually fly there. Potomac Apch will give you a turn direct GAI once you are over FDK on the way in and outbound, once identified off GAI, you will get RV to MRB. Looks like way out of your way but they are just protecting IAD's arr/dep corridor.
 
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One addendum to Paul's list of "activities" to obtain the PIN...

Under item "c", you will need to leave enough time @ CGS to sit and watch a 30 min video (no reading materials allowed in room) wherein the TSA congratulates itself on a fine job of creating the ADIZ. Oh, did I mention that appx 22 min of the 30 has totally unintelligible audio and that both the TSA and the CGS folks know the tape is "non-airworthy"? So you get roughly eight minutes of TSA back-slapping and the rest is scratch-n-garbled mumbling. How useful.
 
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Jim,

You should have told me you were coming up. I probably could have met you at ISP and brought you back home after lunch.
 
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Thanks for the offer Dave, but it would have cost you more in fuel than the Southwest Military ticket cost. This annual has turned into a real can of worms.... I may need to start reading Ken Andrews book on how to fly cheap... or go Steve Posners route and buy a Light Sport.
 
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JBunn said:
Thanks for the offer Dave, but it would have cost you more in fuel than the Southwest Military ticket cost.
Click to expand...

Fuel equals fun. I would have gladly flown you.
 
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Hey Jim,

Looks like we may need to approach GAI from the south (Lynchburg) on Thursday. When you are headed into FME from the south, what routing does Potomac give you? The usual MRB V166 EMI seems a bit extreme as detours go. Is that the only way in? Realize it may vary upon IAD's arrival/departure corridors.
 
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Bill, sorry for the delayed answer. In Phoenix on business. Potomac uses routes you V93 to Louie or Graco then into FME. They want you out of the arrival departure corridor for BWI.
 
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Jim, we are in Phoenix, 602 359 1461.
 
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Thx Jim. We had a great break on the way over... we were headed to NC to make the turn east but tops over WV were several thousand feet lower than forecast so we yanked and banked to port and enjoyed 170 kt GS. Usual arrival route. Will jot down the V93 route for future use. Headwinds on the return ranged from 40kts to nearly 70! (we were showing 65kt GS at times) Sometimes flying in winter wx really blows. Got a little better west of the mountains.

Some interesting mountain waves east... full power climb to hold altitude. Not rough. Just a huge column of descending air. You could sure visualize the ridges piling up gigantic "breakers" of clear air.
 
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Ohh Judi...Looks like another troll has paid us a visit.
 
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hard to believe it's worth the effort it takes.
 
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