KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

[FS]

Some of the northeast COG members will be gathering for lunch at KMVY this Saturday, Dec 12. Planned arrival time is noon, for a sumptuous meal at the airport restaurant. Current weather forecast looks exceptional, with record-breaking high temperatures possible. (For this time of year, that means close to 60 degrees Fahrenheit.)

All are welcome. If you're planning to attend and haven't already RSVP'd, please do so here or by email to me so we know who to expect.

 

[Jamesdub]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

I haven't done any over water hops in the Commander (outside a little pattern work at New Orleans and I think the average dept is 3'), in the Mil we'd don water wings and wear a Mustang (exposure) suit.

On a trip like above how do you address the overwater survival equipment? Or do you? Just curious . . .

 

[FS]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

On a trip like above how do you address the overwater survival equipment? Or do you?

I live on an island. Got my PPL doing turns-around-a-point around an offshore oil off-loading platform for the nearby power plant, low-altitude S-turn training over the ocean using the barrier islands as a reference, and touch-and-goes and cross-country flights at airports across the Long Island Sound. Flying over water is an everyday occurrence around here, and I don't know anybody that puts on a wet suit or brings along a raft.

However, some people -- myself included on the rare occasion of having a nervous passenger on board -- will follow the Long Island coast east to the narrowest point of the Long Island Sound, then cross over to the Connecticut shore and head east along that coastline before doing another short over water trip on the way to MVY.

If you do a web board search you'll find other past discussions on this topic. My point has always been that the airplane doesn't know what the terrain looks like under the wings. If I can trust it to take me on hours-long cross-country trips over land, mountains, and solid undercast to various destinations then I can certainly trust it to take me on a 50 minute flight over water to MVY, or 35 minutes to BID.

 

[Pat]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

I have done a fare amount of over water flying. I stay high until I have the island airport in easy glide distance.
One day going to Catalina Island, a Mooney below me was showing off to a female passenger and had a prop strike on a wave. He stayed afloat just long enough to get a Mayday out.

 

[Jamesdub]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

Couple of Sun & Funs ago I bought a pair of comfort wear vests, they're still in my hangar locker . . .
I keep a 406 PLB on board. It came with a good sized water tight survival bag but that like the vests, I've yet to do anything with / fill.

 

[rotarur]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

I haven't done any over water hops in the Commander (outside a little pattern work at New Orleans and I think the average dept is 3'), in the Mil we'd don water wings and wear a Mustang (exposure) suit.

On a trip like above how do you address the overwater survival equipment? Or do you? Just curious . . .

We fly carefully high enough over the water and look for the lobster buoys, "those can getcha'" like one of our good old departed friends used to say.


Radu

 

[gmores]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

From the coastline it's literally 5 minutes to the Vineyard.

But if you do go swimming the water is still nice and warm - almost 50!

 

[Sherman]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

I am looking forward to the 'Fun Report'!!!

 

[FS]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

I am looking forward to the 'Fun Report'!!!

Just four of us got together for lunch at the airport restaurant. Myself, Bob James, Glenn Mores, and Radu Rotaru. Weather was excellent, with a great tailwind in the morning and a lousy headwind for the trip home in the afternoon. Spent a couple of hours chatting, and you'll be happy to hear that your name wasn't mentioned even once.

 

[Sherman]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

Thanks Frank! In 80s camped a few times under the wing at Katama. $4 vs $86 B&B. All that was a decade b4 Oshkosh. Just Spent a few days with Sid &flying in Hampton Roads area . Will share in seperate thread. Four pretty good. Happy Holidays to all!!

 

[gmores]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

As Frank mentioned. Beautiful weather - one of the rare times that I've been on the ramp in the Vineyard during the winter when it was comfortable to walk around a bit. Attached picture is Boston and Logan. ATC was cooperative and took me just off the field.

 

[rob egph]

Re: KMVY, Saturday, Dec 12

"On a trip like above how do you address the overwater survival equipment? Or do you? Just curious . . . "

I do a bit of open water flying. Anyone planning trips beyond gliding range might want to do some immersion training, including opening a life raft and turning it over as they can open upside down. I talked with heli-rescue guys. they almost never pull people out of the water if they've not got themselves into a raft with a canopy so that the water is kept out. An immersion suit is pretty well also mandatory;a dry suit and insulating layer. We have rubber balaclavas and gloves for the cold water in these parts. I jumped into cold water and it's a shock. We have utility belts with bits attached like VOR handhelds, compass and LED torch. I was given a tip about electronics like this. You wrap it in a condom to keep the water out and that allows you to use the buttons. The raft has survival gear and we have a pyrotechnic bag as well. Life jackets always and the immersion suit more or less fully zipped up as you may not have the time to zip it in an emergency. Little hot packs are in one of my pockets. I use them to keep my feet warm when watching rugby. Hope never to use them.
Of course a lot of this stuff would be useful in sparse terrain as well. The raft acts as a tent for a while and the other stuff is useful too.
Did I mention chocolate ??