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Can someone please tell me how/where to find Ken Andrews landing gear troubleshooting guide ?

rringgold

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Can someone please tell me how to find Ken Andrews landing gear troubleshooting guide? I can’t seem to locate it in this new format.
 
It should be here - http://www.commander.org/


Good point though - I haven't seen any links to the home page or hangar on the new page!!
 
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Can someone please tell me how to find Ken Andrews landing gear troubleshooting guide? I can’t seem to locate it in this new format.

Ken isn't published, so you'll never find it. That guide was put together by Bill Bailey.
 
Can someone please tell me how to find Ken Andrews landing gear troubleshooting guide? I can’t seem to locate it in this new format.

The main website with the Hangar and Manuals pages is still right where it always was: www.commander.org

While it will also be getting completely redone, the old will be available as it always was right up until the new site goes live.
 
Good Luck with being able to read the hanger section.
 
Good Luck with being able to read the hanger section.

I just went over to www.commander.org, clicked the link for the Hangar page, entered the password, and it popped up without any hesitation. The password has been published here in the past -- with numerous subsequent references to it. In my opinion, the password is ridiculously simple to remember.

So, what problems are you having with the Hangar page?
 
The Password is ridiculously easy to Remember. Problem is, I have so many Passwords that are Ridiculously easy to Remember, I've got to write them all down some where!!!!!!
 
A number of us for some reason only see a page of random characters and it has been this way for awhile. Since it only affects some - it doesn’t seem to matter to our webmaster.
 
Since it only affects some - it doesn't seem to matter to our webmaster.

Having quite a bit of experience with this sort of thing, let me explain how it works. If we have dozens and dozens of users that are not experiencing any problems, and one or a few users that are experiencing a problem, then we generally will look at the user's local setup being the cause rather than the server configuration. Furthermore, the support people at our company aren't able to just travel to a user location and walk in to try and figure out what's happening. Those users need to get their own local support involved to track down the problem.

That's just the facts of life in the computer industry. There's only so much we (speaking about the companies I'm involved with, not specifically COG, but the same holds true) can look at from the server side. Once those things have been examined and appear proper and correct, and with dozens (actually, in my case usually hundreds) of users not having any problems then our work is done. The rest needs to be figured out on the user's side.

You appear to be of the belief that Radu hasn't looked into the issue on the server side, when what needs to happen is that you should get the kid next door to come over and figure it out for you. Just sayin'.
 
The Password is ridiculously easy to Remember. Problem is, I have so many Passwords that are Ridiculously easy to Remember, I've got to write them all down some where!!!!!!

We keep that password in a sticky at the very top of the 'Commander Org Supporters' conference here in the forums, so if you can log in here, you can always jump over there to get it. We haven't changed it since 2014 although we probably should.

Second suggestion is to get a password vault program where you can centrally keep all your accounts and passwords. KeePass is a free, secure, and well written application that does this. Download the 1.37 portable version which is totally self contained and can run off a flash drive or from a cloud storage location. There's also a Droid and OS X port available.

With an app like this, you only have one password to ever remember.
 
Ok, so we have a new freshly overhauled website . Great , so I try to find the hangar section on this new website. Little did I know we kept the old website for items like the hangar section. Now I know. I’m still learning. Thanks for all your hard work to build and maintain this informative website Radu. Like most others, I would be behind the 8-ball without all this info, paying the local mechanic to keep this airplane flying.
 
We keep that password in a sticky at the very top of the 'Commander Org Supporters' conference here in the forums, so if you can log in here, you can always jump over there to get it. We haven't changed it since 2014 although we probably should.

Second suggestion is to get a password vault program where you can centrally keep all your accounts and passwords. KeePass is a free, secure, and well written application that does this. Download the 1.37 portable version which is totally self contained and can run off a flash drive or from a cloud storage location. There's also a Droid and OS X port available.

With an app like this, you only have one password to ever remember.

Thanks from us Luddites Glen!
 
After troubleshooting my gear system, I find that the motor was getting 12volts but not turning. So out comes the motor and reservoir. Then I disassembled the motor case from the reservoir. You wouldn’t believe the disgusting mess this motor left on the bench! After 45 years and only about 1750 hours, the motor toasted itself. The black dusty mess was apparently the brushes. Time to send this off to Arco to see if they can resurrect it.
Just for the record, the marine pump/motor/reservoir would fit, but the reservoir housing is plastic, the motor has a sticker/decal on it stamped for marine use, and the cherry on the cake is that the shaft on the motor is two pieces with a plastic collar to join the two shafts. How many of you would put this on your plane? Technically the new motor would bolt right on the old reservoir, the decal/ sticker would probably peel right off, and an enterprising individual could have a machinist fabricate a collar for the two piece shaft out of unobtainium...
the new motor I mentioned is Arco part number 6217 off their website from the hangar section.
 
After troubleshooting my gear system, I find that the motor was getting 12volts but not turning. So out comes the motor and reservoir. Then I disassembled the motor case from the reservoir. You wouldn’t believe the disgusting mess this motor left on the bench! After 45 years and only about 1750 hours, the motor toasted itself. The black dusty mess was apparently the brushes. Time to send this off to Arco to see if they can resurrect it.
Just for the record, the marine pump/motor/reservoir would fit, but the reservoir housing is plastic, the motor has a sticker/decal on it stamped for marine use, and the cherry on the cake is that the shaft on the motor is two pieces with a plastic collar to join the two shafts. How many of you would put this on your plane? Technically the new motor would bolt right on the old reservoir, the decal/ sticker would probably peel right off, and an enterprising individual could have a machinist fabricate a collar for the two piece shaft out of unobtainium...
the new motor I mentioned is Arco part number 6217 off their website from the hangar section.


which means its been in there less than 45 yrs ago and a prior owner replaced it with a marine version of the same motor. They are similar but they're not the same. This topic has been discussed widely on the board. Even the different pump numbers by model have different internal pressures. What does book say for you S/N for part # ?i.e. - don't replace it with another marine motor. You can probably get the right pump for your plane ..
 
Just to clarify, I believe that my motor/reservoir has been in the airplane for 45 years. It is a Prestolite product with a cast metal reservoir. Sorry if I didn’t explain that very well. What I was describing was the marine pump that is available from Arco, which I found in the hangar section of the forum. Two of our members have recommended this company but did not actually purchase this marine pump. I mistakenly understood that since this part number was given on the forum it perhaps had been used by other members, not so. I attempted to describe the similarities and differences of the old pump/ reservoir and the new marine unit which we should not use in an aviation application. I must stress that with regards to the motor itself there is a difference in the design and length of the shaft, but truly I’d bet the inner components of the two motors are identical. While some would want to believe the aviation application is built to higher standards, I ‘m not buying into that. The outward appearance of these two motors is identical. The difference is that the marine unit utilizes a two piece shaft with a plastic coupling .
It would fit, but who wants to use a plastic piece in their gear system? Not me. While it is tempting to save AMU’s ($1795 for the power pack rebuild versus $250 for the marine unit), I just can’t tempt fate with a piece of plastic in my gear system.
I intend to send the original motor to Arco and have it rebuilt, as the parts are SO worn . It doesn’t seem necessary to rebuild the entire power pack once you see what’s in the reservoir. And since the hydraulic pressure is serial number specific, why invite Murphy’s law into the mix? That’s just my two cents worth.
 
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