Jamesdub
New member
Enterprise, AL
- Aircraft Year
- 1978
- Aircraft Type
- 114
- Reg Number
- N114JA
- Serial Number
- 14365
One of those ‘quick attention getting’ flights.
Yesterday I had the rare privilege of flying with one of my two flying sons in our Commander. Both are career Army Aviators, Rich my eldest’ is about to retire after 27 years a/duty. His current posting is flying UC-35’s (Citation’s) out of Dobbins ARB, prior to that he flew RC-12’s (King Airs) and the Armed Scout Helo.
After spending the weekend with his family we filed an IFR from North Atlanta to Enterprise Al with Rich in the left seat. It was a real treat acting like a crew vs. the single pilot IFR that is the usual practice.
As it turned out we ended up getting a ‘visual’ but had to fit ourselves in between two slow 152’s doing pattern work. Rich did well with the traffic separation and on a very stabilized final I noticed we were still at 10* flaps, so I added another notch totally upsetting his stable approach. He extended our touchdown point with a smooth landing but on rollout he ‘forcefully’ pushed forward on the yoke driving the nose way down from my usual rollout sight picture.
I could only envision Jim’s 78” Hartzell eating asphalt as I ‘politely’ informed him we normally go the opposite direction with the yoke on landing. . . . He grinned and reported, ‘Muscle Memory’. Guess they land the jets a bit differently . . .
No harm no foul, but it did get my attention.
Be safe out there . . . John
Yesterday I had the rare privilege of flying with one of my two flying sons in our Commander. Both are career Army Aviators, Rich my eldest’ is about to retire after 27 years a/duty. His current posting is flying UC-35’s (Citation’s) out of Dobbins ARB, prior to that he flew RC-12’s (King Airs) and the Armed Scout Helo.
After spending the weekend with his family we filed an IFR from North Atlanta to Enterprise Al with Rich in the left seat. It was a real treat acting like a crew vs. the single pilot IFR that is the usual practice.

As it turned out we ended up getting a ‘visual’ but had to fit ourselves in between two slow 152’s doing pattern work. Rich did well with the traffic separation and on a very stabilized final I noticed we were still at 10* flaps, so I added another notch totally upsetting his stable approach. He extended our touchdown point with a smooth landing but on rollout he ‘forcefully’ pushed forward on the yoke driving the nose way down from my usual rollout sight picture.

I could only envision Jim’s 78” Hartzell eating asphalt as I ‘politely’ informed him we normally go the opposite direction with the yoke on landing. . . . He grinned and reported, ‘Muscle Memory’. Guess they land the jets a bit differently . . .

No harm no foul, but it did get my attention.

Be safe out there . . . John