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Hello all!

After a bit of a hiatus, I’m back and looking for a 114 again. Late last year didn’t work out for me, but things are looking up now.

I appreciate all the advice you guys gave me then and, of course, the intro to Judi.

I’m looking at this a/c and wonder if anyone has any input on it - good, bad, neutral.

https://www.trade-a-plane.com/searc...&model=114&listing_id=2329250&s-type=aircraft

N166DA

I love the glass in the cockpit. Disappointed it doesn’t have a three blade prop.

Anybody have anything they care to share?

Cheers!!
Mike

 

[Jaybird]

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That looks like the 2 blade Hartzell prop that requires the 100 hour Eddy Current Inspection. Think of it as adding $3 per hour to your flight time. Look in the prop log.

 

[Commander91gm]

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That looks like the 2 blade Hartzell prop that requires the 100 hour Eddy Current Inspection. Think of it as adding $3 per hour to your flight time. Look in the prop log.

The 100 hour inspection required by that AD does not apply to all two blade props. At the time I chose to upgrade to the 3 blade but there was also an option to replace the hub on the 2 blade with one that would not require the inspections

 

[plight]

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Good luck with your search.

 

[jrichards]

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Hi Michael,

The main thing is to arrange for a type-expert pre-buy inspection before you commit.

Jim

 

[Jamesdub]

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Nice panel, check and see if the G480 is WAAS, You'll need that for serious IFR work.
I'm betting it is.

also: (Tail STC to eliminate AD) Not tracking this mod, anyone?? I have Jim's inoculation kit, but we still have to do the 150 hr.

Lot of nice MOD's already installed.

Good luck with your search,
John

 

[Mself]

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Thanks all for the good input!!!!

 

[atjudge]

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You know, as I look at that Airplane, for that Price, with the avionics it has, it might be a Great Candidate for the Super Commander conversion. Not sure what the price is today for a super Upgrade.

 

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Nice panel, check and see if the G480 is WAAS, You'll need that for serious IFR work.
I'm betting it is.

also: (Tail STC to eliminate AD) Not tracking this mod, anyone?? I have Jim's inoculation kit, but we still have to do the 150 hr.

Lot of nice MOD's already installed.

Good luck with your search,
John

You need WAAS for serious IFR? Uh-oh. I had no idea! For the sake of logbook accuracy I checked out the antonyms for "serious" and found these:

deceptive, dishonest, false, insincere, misleading, untrustworthy, flippant, funny, happy, light, minor, trivial,

I have since split IFR in my logbook into two categories, "Serious IFR" and "Funny IFR." (It was a toss-up between Funny and Happy as to what to call it.) I now have 5 hours, Serious IFR, and 850 hours, Happy IFR. Thanks for straightening me out on this!

 

[Commander91gm]

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Nice panel, check and see if the G480 is WAAS, You'll need that for serious IFR work.
I'm betting it is.

also: (Tail STC to eliminate AD) Not tracking this mod, anyone?? I have Jim's inoculation kit, but we still have to do the 150 hr.

Lot of nice MOD's already installed.

Good luck with your search,
John

Unlike Garmin, the 480 was WAAS from day one (thats why Garmin bought Apollo). There are none out there that are not.

 

[plight]

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I noticed that the ad mentioned “327 + ADS-B”. Not a lot of details. The Garmin 327 transponder itself does not have ADS-B built in.

 

[Charlie]

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Michael, best of luck on finding what you are looking for. Because the site does not provide access to the logs, I'd suggest it impossible to form any certain opinion. My thought is that everything about the plane is relative to a reasonable price. The panel is nice, for certain, but that's not all to consider. What's the status of the engine, for example? An 843-hour engine sounds great; but how long ago was the overhaul? Did the plane sit for the last few years with minimal hours being put on it? What was put into the plane during the "extensive annual" in 10/18? Knowing this could provide you with a ton of info about how the airplane has been cared for.

Other things to think about: Do you want/need turbo ability, for example? If so there are other planes out there that would give you that. What is the load you are realistically looking for? Could a 112 work for you? Could you live with a non-glass panel(?), for example. Glass panels are certainly nice to have, if that is your priority the plane you are looking for might be just what you want. Personally, the non-glass panel in my Hot Shot suits me just fine. I learned to fly long before glass panels were available, and did my instrument training on dual VORs & an ADF. You also might want to exercise caution with a 480 these days. I have one in 94J & love its capabilities. However, as of January 2018 repairs by Garmin are on a very limited basis due to unavailability of parts. I am already thinking ahead to what will replace it when my 480 gives out.

Everything is a personal preference & you need to be happy with what you find. I fully agree with Jim's recommendation - ensure you have an appropriate pre-buy done before you commit.

 

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I spoke to the seller a few months back, nice guy........current commercial airline pilot looking to get a twin so his son can continue training. All AD's are up to date and from my discussion with him it sounds like he takes good care of the plane. He wasn't interested in offers, just his asking price but that may of changed from then. Good luck

 

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Looks like the JPI engine monitor is a EDM830 and not a EDM760, which makes it better than advertised, but begs the question as to why the Seller doesn't know what is in the plane? Looks nice and is reasonably priced IMO in today's market. Definitely get a thorough pre-buy inspection and determine when engine was overhauled, and get frequency and breakdown of when the 842 hours since SMOH were flown. It is a nice looking plane, and would definitely benefit in both performance and sex appeal by adding a 3-blade prop. Good luck.

 

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Mike,

Before going down the route of a pre-purchase, you might want to find out if the Lycoming Crankshaft AD was applicable and completed. If his engine falls into the AD (simple to check by serial number of the engine), and it was not done, you should think about at least $15,000 or more to have it done.

 

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From the file: Rockwell International sold the plane new to Ferry America in Walnut Creek, CA 12-31-76 when S/N14166 was N4836W;
which was exported to AUS in 01-25-77 becoming VH-MNZ in AUS.

I knew of the AUS owner Wally Iverson when the plane came back to US to Stuart, FL in 2002, Diversified Aviation, hence the DA reg. ID.
then back and forth bet. 3-4 dealers before Airmart selling it April 2017.

Judi

 

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Hello all!

After a bit of a hiatus, I’m back and looking for a 114 again. Late last year didn’t work out for me, but things are looking up now.

I appreciate all the advice you guys gave me then and, of course, the intro to Judi.

I’m looking at this a/c and wonder if anyone has any input on it - good, bad, neutral.

https://www.trade-a-plane.com/searc...&model=114&listing_id=2329250&s-type=aircraft

N166DA

I love the glass in the cockpit. Disappointed it doesn’t have a three blade prop.

Anybody have anything they care to share?

Cheers!!
Mike

We took this plane to pre-buy inspection when it was for sale through AirMart in KY two Februarys ago. Our pre-buy inspection was done by a local reputable shop with the life-line assistance of a Commander guru. Too many problems turned up including one major structural issue. We walked. Will share what we learned back then if you want to send a PM.

 

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Can you share the structural issue?

 

[pboynton]

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Can you share the structural issue?

The plane lived in Australia originally and was imported back to the US. Though the engine time is near mid-life for the 2000 TBO, the current hours are on a SECOND field overhaul. Probably looking at a new or reman engine pretty soon. We would have lived with this if everything else had been a 'go'.

* - at import, the wings were removed and the flap torque tube cut. It looked as though the approved SB procedure was used at reassembly, but the four bolts in the tube and sleeve had moved over time and enlarged the holes in the tube and sleeve. There was a lot of play in the right hand flap. We could have lived with this with a reduction in price.

* - Corrosion on major structural fitting in the right wheel well. Both the local shop and our guru determined it was deeper than specs would allow for a 'spot fix'. Very expensive to replace the fitting. AirMart and the owner at the time disagreed and performed some sort of quick fix.

I don't know what has been addressed since we looked into this plane, and shared these and other issues with Michael so he can check the logs.

 

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Mike,

Welcome back, and good luck with the hunt. I’m making a comeback of sorts, just out seven months. I’m also looking, and while I enjoy the hunt I rather just get back in the air.