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112 Hot Shot

carllee

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Aircraft Year
1974
Aircraft Type
112 Hot Shot
Reg Number
N1144J
Serial Number
186
When I took over the 112 Hot Shot STC from Robin, last year, he gave me some of his inventory. I would really like to get rid of what is left of this inventory. I sent out postcards at the beginning of this year offering a discount to anyone that was interested in turbonormalizing their 112, but I'm not sure if everyone got one.

Once this inventory is gone I will never again be able to sell a system at such a low price. The component prices have increased dramatically from when Robin purchased these items.

This is your chance to see 150+ knots in your 112, and save a ton of money on fuel!

Please call me if you are interested. 805-215-2982 www.rcmnormalizing.com
 
I need a turbolizer for mine!!!!
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

So buy it, Lonnie!
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

When I took over the 112 Hot Shot STC from Robin, last year, he gave me some of his inventory. I would really like to get rid of what is left of this inventory. I sent out postcards at the beginning of this year offering a discount to anyone that was interested in turbonormalizing their 112, but I'm not sure if everyone got one.

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4 new Hot Shots are flying since 1/1/2013. I have just 1 complete system left. Any takers? I'll give you a screaming deal!
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

If only we could snap that bad boy on! :rolleyes:
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Carllee

I am guessing that this ship has sailed and the inventory is gone?

Thanks

Dean

4 new Hot Shots are flying since 1/1/2013. I have just 1 complete system left. Any takers? I'll give you a screaming deal!
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Of course the Hotshot is great for high altitude but the best benefit I I like is normalizing density altitude in the summer on take off. Keep in mind the wings still suffer from some lose of lift but at least you have full power at any altitude and in summer it really helps. I also like climb instead of less vertical fpm as you gain altitude the higher you are the faster she climbs with a Hotshot.
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Carllee

I am guessing that this ship has sailed and the inventory is gone?

Thanks

Dean

Sorry, yes they it is all gone. I can put one together for you, but not at the price of the inventory I inherited from Robin.
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Turbolizer to??????
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Brian, I'm curious what procedure you use with the manual waste-gate control to take advantage of the turbo-normalizing on takeoff. Do you turn it up from at a standstill while holding brakes and to what MP do you crank it in on the roll? Also, on descent to your destination do you keep any MP boost in, in the event of a go-around or do you pull it out thru descent & landing?

I have a Hotshot 112 also but my primary use has been at altitude for climb & cruise, other than a couple of short-field takeoffs with brief boost, and would like to establish a standard procedure for summertime high-density takeoffs we experience in SLC, UT while avoiding over-boosting and/or too much wear & tear on the equipment, and not aggravating ATC any more than I normally do :-)

Thanks for any pointers!
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Rodger

The hot shot guy's will be able to answer the question about how to set it up but I wouldn't worry about overboosting it or wear.


I fly the TCA which is the factory Turbo'd engine and Take Off MP for that engine is 42" up to 8k feet and still as high as 36 at 16,000 feet
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

For the hot shot you should not exceed 28" MP.

You should takeoff at 28" MP and then cruise at no more than 26.5" MP
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Wheezy.

The unwritten rule for the hotshot is 30" for 3 minutes. And three minutes is a long time on a departure.

The worst situation that I have been in was in Brian's hotshot N377SB, and Brian's plane is not just a hotshot but a 112B hotshot. The B s have the longer wing and a gross weight of 2800 lbs.

Springerville Az. Airport elevation was 7055' and density altitude was 10,600'.

The locals were amazed to see us arrive and asked how long we would be staying, like we had no plans to depart. All the local planes were grounded due to the DA. 150, 172, 182, etc.

They all talked about the local planes being grounded and explained that they did not fly at that DA.
We were even told to look at the end of the runway "IF" we did get off the ground to see a Bonanza that had crashed the previous week. They did not know that we were turbo normalized and I did not say anything.

After an hour of investigation and studying I decided that if we could get 28" MP we would depart on the 8500' runway.

Got 28" no problem and lifted off at 30" and it was a breeze. We were at gross weight of 2800 lbs plus a few extra oz.

I did make one mistake and did learn from it. I had always been told that the turbo normalized plane thought that it was at sea level at all times, this is NOT true. It is only the case when the throttle is in and he plane is producing power.

It was just a little embarrassing to have the engine die on roll out. Not knowing the situation we got out the tow bar and pushed Sierra Bravo to the ramp. So leaning is required when the throttle is reduced.

The hotshot is a great aircraft even at sea level. Any hotshot pilots please add to my comments.

Life is a barrel of fun.
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

I hold the breaks and dial in 28" and release the brakes for take off........
26.5 M.P. and 2450 RPM will get you 75% power at cruise,,,,,I take off at 28 MP and reduce to 26/26 while climbing after getting 1000' above field elevation...I reduce the MP upon descending..seams to work out well
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

My proceedure is very similar to what Terry described. Full power, and turn the knob for the turbo until I see at least 28". I occsionally fly in and out of Ruidoso N.M. as well as Durango Co. Both will have a DA of 10,000' easily in the summer. I still plan my departures for earlier in the mornings to be on the safer side, but using the proceedure above should easily give you all you need to take off.
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Reducing power to 26 squared (or the "oft heard" 25 squared) reduces your climb power dramatically, resulting in longer times to climb, and more time with the engine at it's worst "heat producing" stage.

25 Squared gives you only 78% of your engine's maximum power. Similarly, 26 Squared reduces power to about 85% of max HP. And since rate of climb is a direct function of the available power ABOVE what is required to cruise at that airspeed, you could be cutting your ROC by a significant factor. You spend longer at a high power setting to get to cruise altitude, and you spend more time climbing at reduced airspeed before establishing cruise. The end result is that you reach cruise altitude later, further toward your destination, and you wind up burning more fuel for the flight.

The APS guys recommend full power climbs all the way to cruising altitude, possibly with RPM reduced to 2500 at 1000 AGL if you're near a noise-sensitive area (and where in the US would you NOT be near a noise-sensitive area?)... Reducing from 2700 to 2500 RPM costs you appx 5% power, while significantly reducing the noise signature. They also recommend that you lean every few thousand feet to maintain the "target EGT" (next paragraph explains) established for your engine. You don't have to fixate on this, just wait until it drops 50-100 degrees, and lean it back to the target.

"Target EGT" is basically the EGT that you read from your EGT gauge when you apply full power (max MP and max RPM) at sea level in your airplane. Let's assume for the sake of discussion that this was 1350. As you climb, the EGT will slowly fall as the mixture becomes overly rich (thinner air). Leaning the mixture to regain your 1350 "target EGT" will keep you well on the rich side of peak, but also keep the engine producing close to maximum power. This is not a "super precision" exercise, so if you're at 500 MSL at your home airport, it is probably good enough.

This technique also solves the problem of knowing how much leaning is required at high-altitude airports, such as the one described earlier in this thread. If you lean the engine prior to takeoff to attain the target EGT (1350 in our hypothetical situation), your engine would be producing very close to the maximum power available at that airport under those conditions.

(If your airplane has a TIT gauge, you can use TIT instead of EGT for this "target" figure, and lean to the target TIT.)
 
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Re: 112 Hot Shot

Rodger

The hot shot guy's will be able to answer the question about how to set it up but I wouldn't worry about overboosting it or wear.

I fly the TCA which is the factory Turbo'd engine and Take Off MP for that engine is 42" up to 8k feet and still as high as 36 at 16,000 feet

Joel- Do you hold 42"? I have always rotated with about 40" and climb with 38". Maybe that's why the hill seems so large at my airport. :) k
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Kelly

I hold 42 until at least 1,000 AGL than transition to cruise climb at 2,500 X 35" and 1,500TIT.
There was a point made the other day regarding staying at full takeoff power for the climb (I think it was Scott) and I get his reasoning. Now that it is cooler I might try holding higher MP for longer on the climb.
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

Kelly

I hold 42 until at least 1,000 AGL than transition to cruise climb at 2,500 X 35" and 1,500TIT.
There was a point made the other day regarding staying at full takeoff power for the climb (I think it was Scott) and I get his reasoning. Now that it is cooler I might try holding higher MP for longer on the climb.

Not me! I don't comment on turbo operation.
 
Re: 112 Hot Shot

I'm getting more interested in this modification. I have a mid-time IO360 with about 840 hours. What would the likely total cost be for installation including the three blade Hartzell?
 
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